**This blog may be edited or expanded later for typos and better coherence**
This debate seems inevitable. It began with my Blog post (CLICK HERE TO ACCESS) that was meant as a review of Mark Steyn’s book, ”America Alone- The end of the world as we know it” . Book review became an excuse for tackling hackneyed Islamophobic notions, consiracy theories and rhetoric, often fanned by ”conservatives” and dirty little right wing political parties in Europe and the rest of the world. I welcome all the comments from anyone, anywhere in the world and I promise I will try my best to include your comment, even if you may have very strong opinions about anything, pro Muslim or Anti- Muslim. It is time we become very honest about our secret spaces of heart and mind and once and for all express what is it that we really think or want?
First of all I am no friend of ANY RELIGION, let alone Islam. But it just hurts my nerves to see religion being used as an excuse to vent people’s own personal prejudices, grudges and narrow mindedness. Follwing is one comment to my above mentioned Post and my comment in reply that I wish to be the start of this debate. If you’re out there and feel strongly about it. Now, is the chance to vent it or express yourself. This post is available both on my WordPress and Blogger blogs. So, feel free to check both to keep track of comments.
Comment Received from ”Blue Devil” on my WordPress blog post–
”Your comments edge on the overly PCism mentioned in the book. Your rantings are equal to the European politicos and literati that chant anti-American slogans, even though without American help in WWII, all of Europe would be speaking German.
BTW, there are over five million Muslims living in the Philippines. Do you live in a cave? I think I could find one of them that is pro-Islam. You mention India, which is 80+% Hindu. Do you realize that there are over 100 MILLION Muslims in India? China has around 50+ MILLION. Indonesia has the largest Muslim population in the world at about 200 MILLION.
Also, Steyn was not talking about the procreation of Muslims worldwide, but he was comparing their procreation in Europe compared to ethnic Europeans. However, Muslims in predominantly Muslim countries procreate at a greater rate than other races. For instance, in Malaysia, the gov’t (predominantly Muslim) encourages Muslims to have many children. Although, they do stop giving tax breaks after six children. So, a Muslim with 4-6 kids pays little or no taxes and non-Muslims with a couple of kids, but less income, will pay more taxes.
I would suggest that you read “While Europe Slept”, written by a gay American that moved to Europe because of (what he thought) their liberalism and found that he and his partner were frequently verbally (and once physically) attacked by Muslims because of their sexual leanings. He has lived in Europe (Amsterdam and Oslo) for the past decade and has a better firsthand insight than you have.”
My reply
Thanks for your comment. There are lots of points I must address vis-a-vis your comment **I will also blog this comment to be expanded later**
But first of all I must underline I AM NOT PRO EUROPEAN AT ALL. Not even A European fan as opposed to many so called American Conservatives who pine for a 100% White race European society (where people will not only speak German but also French, Italian, Greek etc.) all the time , whether they admit it or not.
Second, once again you’re buying into ”Muslims Attack planet earth” rhetoric. But before I go into it, what possible objection we can have if the whole world population converts to Islam and Muslims make tons of babies, USING THEIR FREE WILL and DEMOCRATIC FREEDOM AND GOD GIVEN SPERMS AND OVARIES?? Freedom: I mean isn’t it what America stands for? I may not like overwhelmingly religious or Muslim world but if it does become so, what can I or you do about it? And what right we have to tell the world what friggin religion THEY CHOOSE or NOT?
I mean in the old times when Christianity was as tyrannical (or more) as fundamentalist Islam today, nothing could stop the spread of Christianity into Europe like an aggressive Cancer. Islamist Christianity of those days was uncivilized, undemocratic, homophobic, misogynist, genocidal, homicidal, persecutory, corrupt, violent, illiberal and and all things Islamist.
And even today we have Christian cults like Mormons and in extreme form, Camp Davidians or doomsday cults whose members’ religious fervor, polygamy, Pedophilia etc. is legendary. Indeed they’re so sick that American federal government has to send military to kill these weirdos. My solution is: any fundamentalism within any religion or philosophy must be annihilated. I don’t care what these weirdos may call themselves: Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Shamans, Hindus, New Age. They should be shot dead on sight or arrested and sent to nut houses.
But there is nothing we can do about people’s right to choose a religion as long as they’re not going in the extremes or seriously harming the life, liberty and security of others. Going by that logic, Islamist terrorists do not represent Islam. End of story. They’re like any other cult and I’ve discussed above what we should do with them.
And as for human rights violations and crimes against humanity, innocent Muslims (men, women and children) get butchered all the time but it does not bother us. Why??? Indian police and army has been butchering them in Kashmir. In all other parts of India from time to time mobs or hooligans enter their homes to rape their women and slaughter their men and children in India (don’t ask me to give examples, you should keep up with news). So, 100 million Muslims in India are not having a jolly good time. They’re persecuted and bullied. Same is true with Uzbekistan, China, Russia (Chechnya)
And your star writer Mark Steyn also notes the massacre of Muslims in the modern territories of Yugoslavia. But he says something like, ”If you can’t outnumber ‘em, you cull ‘em.” Cull what?? Chickens? This is how stupid Mark Steyn is and nobody wants to notice. Is that your solution for the rest of Europe and the world??? ”CULL ‘EM”??
Mark Steyn (as someone with Jewish race) must remember that Nazi party too had said something like that about 60 years back. ”Cull ‘em” And then you got holocaust. I wonder– AND MARK MY WORDS– if with all of this vitriolic propaganda Europe is being groomed for another holocaust. This time ”cull ‘em” for Muslims. It will happen, if this stupid scaremongering keeps gaining momentum.
And by the way, Who is the best U.S. friend, outside the United States? Is it not Saudi Arabia? (Now, even Britain says it has ”Shared values” with Saudi Arabia) How come? And what possible liberation of Muslims and especially women is being carried out by the American military in Saudi Arabia? Please, keep me updated.
