Well, I thought I would bring this subject up some time. But I just find it too boring to talk about. I mean things like one’s race, ethnicity and sexual orientation are talked about because how the whole society is designed with its combined perceptions, prejudices, fears etc. I give you one interesting insight into the human psyche as far as the race goes. I read this new story a while back where they reported about the confidential data from a Western dating website. One of the real striking thing was when people were asked which ”races” they would like to date. Most men and women selected, ”It does not matter.” Naturally, no one would like to be thought of as racist or uneducated etc. But when these very men and women replied to emails they almost always replied to the White ones, some 93% of the time. Interesting huh? ![]()
But why am I talking about it? First of all, I am academically interested in race relations and on the bigger scale, clash of civilizations. I am interested in race relations in countries where different races or ethnicities live: Malaysia (Chinese, Malay, Indians), Singapore, South Africa, New Zealand, Switzerland, Russia, Latin and Central America and most Western countries, ESPECIALLY USA. Second, I am bringing it up because there is a Canadian website called Vancouver forum and someone started a thread on interracial dating (Asian men and White women to be specific), especially on University of British Columbia Campus in Vancouver. CLICK HERE for The link to that forum
Here I am copy pasting some of the messages I posted on that thread. All that discussion piqued my brain into expressing opinions. BUT NOTE: As you are aware of my writing style, I am saying many of the things tongue in cheek and satirically. So, read it with a pinch of salt. But I really tried to express my thoughts on the subject Objectively.
1.) I donno what the fuss is all about. Some messages back ”Tina” pointed out rightly that this is a stupid conversation because ALL WOMEN ARE HOT in their own different ways. ”Tina” is right.
But there is only one thing that ”tina” forgot to mention and I would like to add something guys (as in boys). As long you have a regular job and money, you will attract women of all races, regardless of your own race. That’s the universal rule since the beginning of mankind (and thanks to man’s rib, womankind). I’m sure Adam got Eve because he had a rich Daddy to begin with…the Universal rule does apply, All through human history. Men of power and money get women. I know it sounds vulgar but it’s true. You can even read Shakespeare’s Othelo and how Othelo gets Desdemona (though he eventually loses her by killing her) ![]()
Talking of race, voot you think about your Canadian hero Mark Steyn’s new book ”America Alone- The End of the world as we know it”? Are you Canadians spooked by the bearded folks of Arabia lurking all over Canada as Mark Steyn points out? Get to my blog post then for the book’s review and comment: HERE]
2.) I do agree with you Burning Ember, though you have a blunt way of putting it. I am no big fan of interracial for its own sake. I don’t think it’s cool or unique. It just happens that’s all. And in your own words, the society is all against it. They hate it. Same goes with inter-religious marriages. Jew-Christian/ Christian-Muslim…. Jew-Muslim! All tough stuff. But I personally find it SAD. It means society makes rules for us and we don’t have any say in our own life. And all this in the modern age.
I bet in old times, really old times, different races in many places intermarried and mingled without all that fuss (That’s why we share 99.9% of our genes). I personally would find it tough if I marry a person of different race, I’m brown and marrying both a White or Black is more or less a taboo, sort of social crime. But then if I do fall in love with a White or Black woman, I personally would go ahead and say to the rest of the world (that would Object or try to stop me) that they can sit in their chair and finger their anus… or maybe I will be more polite and quote Bible ,”For this reason they shall leave their mother and father and become one flesh.” lol **By the way, I’m just giving an example**
Hmmm.. what else. To sum it up, I love good and interesting people of all races and I hate bad and boring people of all races, cultures, ethinicities, species or whatever else we have.
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3.) I believe the reasons are mostly cultural, religious, economic, lingual (and many other factors like different families, friends, cuisine!!…and so on).. That’s why people from two different races get so many hurdles to overcome, if they do like each other or worse yet, fall in love.
4.) Hi Robert. I agree with your observations, though it did make me wonder a little what the heck you were doing stalking interracial couples all day long?
But anyway, you’re right, Asian Male/ White Female is something of a rarity. White male/Asian Female happens quite often. Now be surprised, I am in NZ. And I see the same pattern here. But I am a bit surprised by this post because I really didn’t think it was all that a big deal in Canada. But maybe it is because there really are LOTS AND LOTS of Asians in Canada, especially in a city like Vancouver. Hence the fuss.
Well, coming to basics: there are psychological reasons (i will get to it in the next paragraph) as well as White race being considered the epitome of human beauty etc., thanks to Hollywood, TV, Playboy and what not (For the love of God has anyone seen hot Iranian or Afghani girls? Even many pretty Asian girls are very hot, though they deviate from ”classic features”)
Now psychological reasons. In Immigrant Western countries Whites are in majority and it’s their home turf, they got demographic advantages and everything else that comes with it. Of course, then, for colored males getting a White Girlfriend is like a trophy girlfriend. Yeah, I know it sounds stupid. But that’s the way it works. I often have talked to many mixed race or colored guys here in NZ– who have mixed race gf– say to me when I ask where their gf comes from, ”…Ohh she really looks white though… She got like light brown hair and green eyes…Ohh you would think she is white…” It sounds so uneducated, depressing, self-hating and vulgar to me.
Further notes added on Tuesday, 30th October.
Note 1- Just adding an observation that often the word ”INTERRACIAL” is highly politicized. It’s a word that is used for promoting grudges, hatred, prejudices and what not. This word almost always means a union of a White person (often female) and a colored person of any race (Often male). This stereotype cannot be confirmed more if you happen to come across one of those interracial porn websites. You know what I mean. But I personally think of interracial in its literal sense, i.e. union of two races whichever they maybe, including mixed or biracial individuals. For example, Here in New Zealand I have often seen Asian women (mostly Chinese) going out with men of other colored races.
And I must make a special mention of Maori race, the native people of New Zealand who form a sizable minority. Maoris have interbred with almost any race you can imagine. A Maori person may look very European with blonde or light hair, Polynesian, Asiatic or with some quite dark colored and native physical features too. I am sure such intricate interracial patterns maybe true with many other countries as well.
Note 2– Here (CLICK) is a very interesting
link about the origin and evolution of modern human
This is for the white guys who adore black women. Not for the ignorant racist a**holes, not for those who believe one should stick to their own ethnicity. And just as a side note…I adore all guys. I date white guys, black guys, asian guys, indian guys (I think you get the point)…So I guess I should pose the question to all men not just white men…So let me rephrase the question to ~ What is about black women that you love?
— InterracialFriends.com
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I just want to say that growing up in South Africa (as one of the children from the new generation, after apartheid) i have found that my generation is at ease with the whole dating across racial borders. We have grown up to love and accept each other as fellow human beings, each with their own soul. I wish there was just a way for us to stay friends. I personally do not agree with interracial dating because too many complications arise such as cultural differences and confussed children. I do however believe in living together in harmony. God would not have created different races if ‘he’ did not want i to learn something…
Hi thanks for your thoughts. I guess South Africa is one of those places that has acute race related or race relations problems. First, colonialism and Apartheid and now gang violence and affirmative action and economic inequalities.
You’re very right about culture becoming a big hurdle in dating or marriage, it could also be language, race also determines social and economic status, so there you got even more problems. I knew a Finnish lady living in Australia who totally fell in love with a Black South African businessman. Besides the fact he was a good lover, he was also a rich businessman. Money can fix almost any of this world’s problems.
Anyway, I don’t think that interracial dating or marriage is not recommended for any other reasons other than the ones mentioned above. I can use your own argument. You say God would not create different races if He did not want them to coexist. Similarly God, nature etc. do not bar interracial intermarriage and cross breeding. The children of mixed races actually enrich their gene pool. As opposed to children born from very closely related people who may have birth defects such as close cases of incest.
Both according to Bible and science we’re one human race with the same genetic code, blood groups etc. We are one race and have same origins, despite superficial skin, hair color mutations and outward physical features.
As an educated Asian man, I find it unacceptable for an Asian woman to breed with a Caucasian male in the United States. I say this because it is a known fact that Caucasian males in the United States are in general, inferior to the Asian male in all ways. The Caucasian male will make attempts to assimilate the Asian female into his world and society without respect to her culture. This is why many Asian women these days suffer from heritage denial, some even claiming they are “white washed”…hatred for ones culture and a rejection of all things associated.
If an Asian male breeds with a Caucasian female it is quite different. Asian males will introduce their Caucasian partners to their culture so they will better understand and relate without the need to strip the female from her identity.
Caucasian Male + Asian Female = Walmart culture and Mobile Home
Asian Male + Caucasian Female = Smart, Intelligent Children who are successful in life because the father figure is hardworking.
The times are changing, you will see more White women with Asian men because they realize that being with an Asian man, you cannot go wrong.
WGWAG.net is a prime example of an intelligent group of Asian Men who are currently breeding with Caucasian Women.
WGWAG- I am sorry to say but I strongly disagree with your views and am even confused. I think the problem with your thoughts is that you’re beginning with the premises that ”caucasian male” represents an inferior culture, not so rosy economic prospects etc.
You also say that Asian females marrying White men lose their culture. Then you say White women who are married to Asian males are introduced to ”their” culture. So, I guess it means those naive White women also lose their own culture? Admit it, Western culture affords maximum freedom to women and for better or worse Western culture gives women maximum freedom and power to achieve things for themselves.
Asian (we’re talking all strands here: Chinese, South and East Asian, West Asian, Middle East) cultures expect women to admit a second class status after males. In those cultures women are also supposed to make sacrifices for their male partners. Even a rich Asian country like Japan shows this unfortunate trend.
Also I am not at all saying that White or Western women don’t have good family values. In huge number of cases they make much better wife and mother than any non Western woman. Many White women could also find Asian men as plain boring, not so adventurous, restricting and too focused on career etc. (you seem to think that this-career or profession- is the only important factor of male appeal, NO it’s not)
You also confuse interracial with WHITE and COLORED or Asian. Interracial means any two races (individuals could be of distinct races or biracial or multiracial). Interestingly enough I see lots and lots of Asian (East Asian) women these days going out with Black or African guys. Maybe this would appear very objectionable to Asian males but love or friendship is the business or personal matter of two people and everyone else should shut the fuck up. This is what I believe.