Thoughts on interracial dating, couples, marriage and race relations October 25, 2007

Well, I thought I would bring this subject up some time. But I just find it too boring to talk about. I mean things like one’s race, ethnicity and sexual orientation are talked about because how the whole society is designed with its combined perceptions, prejudices, fears etc. I give you one interesting insight into the human psyche as far as the race goes. I read this new story a while back where they reported about the confidential data from a Western dating website. One of the real striking thing was when people were asked which ”races” they would like to date. Most men and women selected, ”It does not matter.” Naturally, no one would like to be thought of as racist or uneducated etc. But when these very men and women replied to emails they almost always replied to the White ones, some 93% of the time. Interesting huh?

 

 

But why am I talking about it? First of all, I am academically interested in race relations and on the bigger scale, clash of civilizations. I am interested in race relations in countries where different races or ethnicities live: Malaysia (Chinese, Malay, Indians), Singapore, South Africa, New Zealand, Switzerland, Russia, Latin and Central America and most Western countries, ESPECIALLY USA. Second, I am bringing it up because there is a Canadian website called Vancouver forum and someone started a thread on interracial dating (Asian men and White women to be specific), especially on University of British Columbia Campus in Vancouver. CLICK HERE for The link to that forum

 

 

Here I am copy pasting some of the messages I posted on that thread. All that discussion piqued my brain into expressing opinions. BUT NOTE: As you are aware of my writing style, I am saying many of the things tongue in cheek and satirically. So, read it with a pinch of salt. But I really tried to express my thoughts on the subject Objectively.

 

 

1.) I donno what the fuss is all about. Some messages back ”Tina” pointed out rightly that this is a stupid conversation because ALL WOMEN ARE HOT in their own different ways. ”Tina” is right.

 

But there is only one thing that ”tina” forgot to mention and I would like to add something guys (as in boys). As long you have a regular job and money, you will attract women of all races, regardless of your own race. That’s the universal rule since the beginning of mankind (and thanks to man’s rib, womankind). I’m sure Adam got Eve because he had a rich Daddy to begin with…the Universal rule does apply, All through human history. Men of power and money get women. I know it sounds vulgar but it’s true. You can even read Shakespeare’s Othelo and how Othelo gets Desdemona (though he eventually loses her by killing her)

 

Talking of race, voot you think about your Canadian hero Mark Steyn’s new book ”America Alone- The End of the world as we know it”? Are you Canadians spooked by the bearded folks of Arabia lurking all over Canada as Mark Steyn points out? Get to my blog post then for the book’s review and comment: HERE]

 

2.) I do agree with you Burning Ember, though you have a blunt way of putting it. I am no big fan of interracial for its own sake. I don’t think it’s cool or unique. It just happens that’s all. And in your own words, the society is all against it. They hate it. Same goes with inter-religious marriages. Jew-Christian/ Christian-Muslim…. Jew-Muslim! All tough stuff. But I personally find it SAD. It means society makes rules for us and we don’t have any say in our own life. And all this in the modern age.

 

I bet in old times, really old times, different races in many places intermarried and mingled without all that fuss (That’s why we share 99.9% of our genes). I personally would find it tough if I marry a person of different race, I’m brown and marrying both a White or Black is more or less a taboo, sort of social crime. But then if I do fall in love with a White or Black woman, I personally would go ahead and say to the rest of the world (that would Object or try to stop me) that they can sit in their chair and finger their anus… or maybe I will be more polite and quote Bible ,”For this reason they shall leave their mother and father and become one flesh.” lol **By the way, I’m just giving an example**

 

 

Hmmm.. what else. To sum it up, I love good and interesting people of all races and I hate bad and boring people of all races, cultures, ethinicities, species or whatever else we have. )

 

 

3.) I believe the reasons are mostly cultural, religious, economic, lingual (and many other factors like different families, friends, cuisine!!…and so on).. That’s why people from two different races get so many hurdles to overcome, if they do like each other or worse yet, fall in love.

 

 

4.) Hi Robert. I agree with your observations, though it did make me wonder a little what the heck you were doing stalking interracial couples all day long?

 

 

But anyway, you’re right, Asian Male/ White Female is something of a rarity. White male/Asian Female happens quite often. Now be surprised, I am in NZ. And I see the same pattern here. But I am a bit surprised by this post because I really didn’t think it was all that a big deal in Canada. But maybe it is because there really are LOTS AND LOTS of Asians in Canada, especially in a city like Vancouver. Hence the fuss.

 

 

Well, coming to basics: there are psychological reasons (i will get to it in the next paragraph) as well as White race being considered the epitome of human beauty etc., thanks to Hollywood, TV, Playboy and what not (For the love of God has anyone seen hot Iranian or Afghani girls? Even many pretty Asian girls are very hot, though they deviate from ”classic features”)

 

 

Now psychological reasons. In Immigrant Western countries Whites are in majority and it’s their home turf, they got demographic advantages and everything else that comes with it. Of course, then, for colored males getting a White Girlfriend is like a trophy girlfriend. Yeah, I know it sounds stupid. But that’s the way it works. I often have talked to many mixed race or colored guys here in NZ– who have mixed race gf– say to me when I ask where their gf comes from, ”…Ohh she really looks white though… She got like light brown hair and green eyes…Ohh you would think she is white…” It sounds so uneducated, depressing, self-hating and vulgar to me.

 

 

Further notes added on Tuesday, 30th October.

 

 

Note 1- Just adding an observation that often the word ”INTERRACIAL” is highly politicized. It’s a word that is used for promoting grudges, hatred, prejudices and what not. This word almost always means a union of a White person (often female) and a colored person of any race (Often male). This stereotype cannot be confirmed more if you happen to come across one of those interracial porn websites. You know what I mean. But I personally think of interracial in its literal sense, i.e. union of two races whichever they maybe, including mixed or biracial individuals. For example, Here in New Zealand I have often seen Asian women (mostly Chinese) going out with men of other colored races.

 

And I must make a special mention of Maori race, the native people of New Zealand who form a sizable minority. Maoris have interbred with almost any race you can imagine. A Maori person may look very European with blonde or light hair, Polynesian, Asiatic or with some quite dark colored and native physical features too. I am sure such intricate interracial patterns maybe true with many other countries as well.

 

 

 

***CLICK HERE**

 

Note 2– Here (CLICK) is a very interesting

link about the origin and evolution of modern human

races.

Robert Frost’s poem October 20, 2007

Picture: Robert Frost (1874-1963)

Well, reading a friend’s blog I came up with this idea to post a poem by my favorite poet, Robert Frost. He is my favorite poet for his marvelous gift for conveying great irony, philosophy, humor or provocative ideas through deft weaving of rather simple words. He was an Atheist but still he had warm humor towards the ideas of God. Here is one example:

”Forgive, O Lord, my little jokes on Thee

And I’ll forgive Thy great big one on me.”
Another thing that I love about him was his depiction of rural New England and its wilderness in his poems: woods, frosts, snows, storms, birches, farms and what not… All beautiful stuff. I have several of his poems as my favorites but here is just one, ”The Road not taken”:

The Road Not Taken

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveller, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I–
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

Review of ”America Alone- The End of the world as we know it” by Mark Steyn October 20, 2007

 

 

 

‘**NOTE**– I noticed I became ”Reader of the day” on Mark Steyn’s website for making him reminisce his Hollinger days when despite his lack of formal education as a journalist Hollinger group launched his career because he had the foxy element that is usually good for ratings.

 

 

Anyhow, it is not about personal attacks and I want to stick to his work, in this case his book. I want to make a special mention that the ideas brought up in his book are not even original in the least. How easy it must have been to write this book… Just collect recent articles from conservative or right wing publications, read speeches, pamphlets of pathetic little right wing political parties all around Europe… and off you go stunning the world. At the back of the book Michelle Malkin (Another neurotic, xenophobic story, but we won’t go there and leave this Islamophobic Philipino-American alone…) writes, ”America Alone will open your eyes. You can’t afford to look away.” She also writes, ”Steyn strips away intellectual rust and PC rot to uncover the writing on the wall.” I think she would hit Bull’s eye if she had written, ”…to uncover the urine on the wall. And it’s his own urine.”

 

 

First of all, this mawkish rave about this book is ONLY FOUND in the so called Conservative media (or writers) who also seem to be the only ones who took care to review this book positively. The mainstream media- New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times, The Guardian etc..- just ignored this book as trash (or at least I could not find any reviews by them)Mark Steyn website also mentions that Mr. Joe Lieberman is clutching this book to his chest as dearly as the holy Bible (The Old Testament only) and giving it away to all other American Senators. Funny. I guess he also has gold inscription on his copy saying, ”An idiot’s guide to become even a bigger idiot.” This all rave made me laugh so hard and it continues to do so (guess what I am doing now). As I said, these ideas have been bandied about by each and everyone for such a long time.

 

 

One of my favorite authors and THE master essayist Gore Vidal talked about this dying out and other demographics of the White race DECADES ago as passing remarks in his essays. Please read it again, DECADES AGO. But Vidal never wrote a full essay or a book on the subject because he knew that there are about a million more real alarming threats to human race, peace, prosperity and freedom that we face every day.

 

 

I wanted to write a review on this little red book (red for Republican or Red Maple Leaf ?…) on Amazon.com but they would let you write a review only if you have bought books from them. Hmmm.. So well, I am writing this review on my blog. This book is a hot best seller now and many people have gotten carried away by it. Out of 5 stars I give it 2 stars for motley of interesting facts and some humor (P.J. O’ Rourke has been doing the humorous conservative writing for Decades), the rest is fluffy cheap journalism. You may say it is FOX NEWS IN PRINT.

 

 

Many mainstream liberals have refused to discuss the book because it is simply too childishly crass. And I can see why. Mark Steyn presumes that just because he can hurl racist, sexist and cultural insults, he gets to be pro-American. Not only this book reeks of xenophobia but also notice cheap comments about ”European slatternly women” on pages 67,68. What Steyn seems to be saying is that all White women who have anything to do with Islam or Muslims are SLUTS. Also, he mentions Luxemborg as a country slightly bigger than a rec room. How would he feel if he is ridiculed with jokes about his Canadian roots (Often delightful favorite American national pastime) and also about his pseudo Frenchie connections through Quebec (he even confesses his love for French food and naked French women who are angelic as opposed to the Slatternly ones?) Bad taste. Cheap.

 

The Demographics of Europe and Muslims– Well, this seems to be the founding (read foundering) pillar of this book and Steyn has used it as an interesting scare-mongering tactic. In short, he opines, the Whites of Europe are not making enough babies whereas Muslims all over the world and in Europe are breeding like nightmarish green bunnies (i.e. green for Islam) So, he says, naturally in due time, Europe will become ”Eurabia” where Muslims will call the shots. It is such an infantile and pathetic logic. He makes Muslim birth rates sound like some kind of Mars Attacks Hollywood flick, where all these little green evil souls will take over the world like millions of Locusts devour everything in their way. Not so.

 

To begin with, I have long wondered about Europe’s falling birth rates and that is a concern, especially for Eastern Europe. But it is not some kind of demographic suicide. I believe in Western Europe it simply exists because of individual selfishness, where people want all their time, money and resources for themselves whereas in Eastern cultures people always want to make plenty of babies and also want to see their kids, grandchildren grow. Not to mention the contraceptives are not only in little supply in many poor conservative countries ( ANYWAY, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE MUSLIM COUNTRIES) but are shunned for social, religious and personal reasons. But I don’t think Europeans will just die out. As The Economist once mentioned, this greying of Europe is not a bad thing if people can have healthier older age, can delay their retirement age, stay more productive, creative and have better standard of living than those who starve in the Eastern countries and watch their tons of children starve as well (forget about proper upbringing, education etc.)

 

On the other hand I am sure, in Western Europe birth rates among Whites will pick up sometime, when they realize things are going real bad. At the moment, the Eastern Europe is a real concern but it is not that they’re indifferent to making babies but they are just very aware of the pain they would end up causing every baby that they bring into a nightmarish world they are living in now: corruption, crushing poverty, crippling violence, crime, civil wars, unemployment (all this does not encourage wise men and women to have babies). I believe- as Steyn himself notes regarding the close relationship between high birth rates and robust market economies- that when economies in these countries become better (a good possibility with EU enlargement) their birth rates will pick up.

 

Steyn sees the world population growth from a stupidly bipolar vision: Muslim and non Muslim. He totally, disregards huge populations of non Muslims in Africa, Latin and Central America, East and South East Asia and that huge country called India whose population is about 82% Hindu. Steyn also makes a stupid blanket statement in the book saying Delhi’s (India’s capital city) population itself is declining. Someone should go to Delhi and any of India’s big (or even small) cities and see for themself the truth of people inhabiting a landscape like termites do timber!!!

In any case, it is the OVER- POPULATION that kills and cripples people and turns them into insects without education, resources, skills to survive… Something, I believe West European kids will Never face. How lucky a West European kid is not to have 5 other siblings who will only make life hell for everyone. If Europe has a population growth rate of some of the tribal nations Steyn fearfully mentions, it will turn into Eurabia much sooner than low birth rates will ever cause it to, if ever. So, shut up Steyn, You’re just the Hollinger media group’s foxy bitch.

 

No special, unusual and shocking threats from Muslim immigrants–

Steyn makes a big deal about Muslim immigrants raising hell in pretty European cities and Europeans cowering in fear. Total Bull-shit.***Added on 24th November, Check this out: CLICK TO Read this Blog post, ”NOT SO DIFFERENT” from a British blogger about Muslims in London***. As for European cowering before Muslims, what about French government’s militaristic stubbornness outlawing the wearing of Muslim head-scarves in schools even when many Muslim girls themselves wish to wear them? Interestingly schoolchildren can still wear small crosses/crucifixes. No multiculturalism or Western freedom of choice there.

 

 

Of course, Muslim immigrants (like any other immigrants) may have resentment because of bad integration, racism, discrimination, NO JOBS. And yes, when things like Paris riots happen, it is sad. But is it not the same kind of thing that goes on in USA vis-a-vis its former slave populations, today known as the Black or Afro Americans? My point is that, such anti- social, destructive or criminal behavior occurs only when there are inhuman disparities and schisms in the economic and social fields. Other than that, Muslim Immigrants may not be worse than any other immigrants from non Muslim countries that refuse to integrate with their new home country even when they’re given the opportunities.

 

I think Muslim immigrants have done a marvelous job integrating within the American society. Many of them actually, came to American shores as refugees: Iraqis, Iranians, Kurds, Palestinians etc. They themselves were the victims of horrendous persecution at the hands of neurotically violent and persecutory Islamist forces in their home countries.

As for religious fundamentalism, it is bad news in any part of the world. People make fun of Muslims being opposed to any modernity and they got Amish folks at home, people make fun of Muslims for having heaps of wives and children and they forget the Mormons at home, people talk about Muslim suicide bombers and they forget about Timothy McVeigh. Besides they forget to condemn NATO bombers dropping bombs over Wedding parties in Afghanistan mistaking them for terrorists, killing innocent children, women and old men.

 

They forget, they forget, they forget. They also forget and refuse to remember that both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were American (CIA etc.) tag team partners during The Cold War. If Cold war had lasted a bit longer than it did, you could bet your American dollar that Osama Bin Laden would get honorary American citizenship by now. But they forget and this is why Mr. Gore Vidal aptly called the USA as the ”United States of Amnesia”.

 

Please don’t get me wrong after reading this review. Though I am not American, I am pro-American. I do believe that America is the only country in the world who will carry the torch of human freedom in the world and it should. I just hate diatribe built around misinformation like Mark Steyn’s book. People like that are the ones who actually, do a great deal of harm by destroying American goodwill in the world. They also forget that all societies are not like Vietnam. You can’t bomb them and then suppose they will never seek revenge. If killing of innocent American civilians in mad terrorist attacks can enrage Americans. Why should it be assumed that American bombs that end up killing civilians anywhere in the world will stay unaccounted for?

 

 

Does an Afghani or Iraqi mother love her children any less than an American mother? Think again.

 

 

I believe the most important thing we need is tolerance (respecting as well as leaving each other alone), spread of prosperity, education, employment, trade in the Muslims countries and societies. As Steyn himself notes, Malaysia is one Muslim country that can be considered prosperous. Though in his blind- ”all Muslims are shit”- faith he gives all credit for Malaysia’s prosperity to its Chinese population. He forgets to mention that Malaysian Muslims don’t go around the world exploding bombs. So at least there are Muslim nations that do not breed terrorists. I believe it is because they’re not threatened by any foreign military or controlled by some blood sucking multi- national corporations. Their sovereignty, sense of honor and self- determination is not hurt. That I think is something that Mark Steyn should read up on. But maybe he already knows that. Maybe Western- Muslim animosity (real and imagined) is not only something he just reports on but it’s something he passionately promotes. It’s his business. It’s all about the ratings… Sad.

Marching on a foggy highway and teasing the gay American. October 5, 2007

Marching on a Foggy Highway.

First of all, some of you have been asking me what I am doing during my 360 vacation. I would like to make something clear. It is not really a 360 vacation in the conventional sense, you know.. like you need a break from blogging, you feel like your brain is frozen and you need to charge your blogging batteries. So for a while you switch off.

I am not really going through that. What I have is an enormous amount of ”TO do” and ”To Sort” things that need taking care of. Also, very intricate planning about my future which at this stage means wanting to study at a post graduate level. Hurdles are many and I am trying to cross them. So, I am sort of online at 360 about 20% of the time compared to the days when I was on here a lot.

I cannot give you details at this stage of hows and whats because honestly I myself am in the process of working it out. But I can let you know what possible areas I wish to do my Masters (hopefully within a year) in: It could be anything from English Literature, International Relations (politics, diplomacy etc.), American Studies (Very likely to pursue this one but there are not direct job opportunities after I finish it. Maybe I can be a janitor in the University after I hand in my thesis.)

I am not at all a social guy but still I so much value friendships I have been blessed with online and offline. So, be assured I will work out the sketchy details and when a picture emerges I will let you know on this blog. I will keep checking your blogs to see what sinister things you’ve been up to. Future is unknown. Maybe some of the bad ones will become humanitarians and missionaries in the impoverished lands of Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe. And some of the good ones might join Al Qaeda because they got pissed off with IRS (Inland Revenue Service in US of A)

Teasing the gay American

But well, here is a brief exchange of views with a gay American living in Auckland (biggest city in New Zealand) It was about 7am on Saturday morning and I really needed a break, a little laugh away from some broody reading of English history by Winston Churchill. gosh.. But here it goes.

The Happy American messages first– Big Cock. (I’m not sure what he meant by that, was it a question or was he giving me some personal info)

Ember– Voot is an American fag doing in New Z Land?

The Happy American– Not a fag like u, wats up?

Ember- I never mentioned I was a fag. Where’re you getting your ideas from? Fox News???

The Happy American– U r a bitch. Enjoy and wank off sweet shit.